tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post1343431595504371138..comments2023-10-16T13:03:48.216+01:00Comments on Lucy's Stash: Ciate is trademarking 'Caviar manicure/ Caviar nails' - is it a bad move?Lucys Stashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01757684622439345388noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-36032520412247037232012-07-22T16:33:04.738+01:002012-07-22T16:33:04.738+01:00I'm even later, but I agree totally. I first ...I'm even later, but I agree totally. I first heard of their brand because of the same blogging they tried to stifle, so when I saw their products in Sephora I walked right on by... and then dropped a bill on some other stuff. I vote exclusively with my wallet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-50836772545898220462012-06-10T15:37:55.007+01:002012-06-10T15:37:55.007+01:00I'm really late to this but I wouldn't hav...I'm really late to this but I wouldn't have heard or Ciate if no one had blogged about the manicure. So by banning blogger using 'Caviar Nails' there will be loads of people who never heard of their brand because even the ones not using their products referenced them.The secret make-up addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15954907725451986507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-22136344673987657192012-04-22T11:23:32.685+01:002012-04-22T11:23:32.685+01:00Sure, everybody is entitled to their opinion and I...Sure, everybody is entitled to their opinion and I completely understan yours. I just wanted to share this info because in my opinion Ciate should rather go after brands/new products called Caviar nails rather than bloggers because caviar manicure is a name of a style/technique which was here before Ciate developed their product. that's why think it's rather too much to send these emails Lucys Stashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01757684622439345388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-75776383600517197712012-04-22T10:43:45.981+01:002012-04-22T10:43:45.981+01:00Well, it definitely was not bullying was it?
re-re...Well, it definitely was not bullying was it?<br />re-read the email above and think again? I, myself, was not offended, and if i had done a caviar review on my blog and recieved that email - yes, i would be hurt but i wouldn't consider it to be a personal attack as some people are taking it. therefore i think for it to be considered 'bullying' is completely ridiculous<br /><br />we Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-57141925909156758922012-04-21T12:09:11.213+01:002012-04-21T12:09:11.213+01:00There's another aspect here that no one else c...There's another aspect here that no one else covered. It's a matter of professionalism in the beauty industry as a whole and the nail industry specifically. I'm a professional nail tech and I find Ciate's PR fail to be outright embarrassing. I somehow doubt Max Factor sued Orly for branding "French Manicure" 40 years after he invented it.<br /><br />It's the standardAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723892192493244145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-25605471210543832822012-04-16T17:14:43.209+01:002012-04-16T17:14:43.209+01:00I don't actually believe Ciate was entirely in...I don't actually believe Ciate was entirely in the wrong here. it seems to me they r just protecting the link to the name 'caviar manicure' and not saying that we cannot do our own DIY versions atall. from the 'do no refreeze' i understood that ciate did not say we cannot buy our own beads n recreate. i then saw on twitter that they sent yet another email apologising if they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-63415965812612073852012-04-14T17:15:57.849+01:002012-04-14T17:15:57.849+01:00Why would anyone want to trademark something so hi...Why would anyone want to trademark something so hideous?<br /><br />On another note, I'm in the middle of a course on Intellectual Property law and basically they shouldn't be able to successfully trademark (or establish any other IP right) over something that isn't original. They may be attempting to put people off using the mark "Caviar Manicure' by saying they've Laurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05581079474434585063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-52176603539695364532012-04-14T07:17:45.447+01:002012-04-14T07:17:45.447+01:00Ciate is off my list of "to buy" polishe...Ciate is off my list of "to buy" polishes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-77357751873534320892012-04-14T02:37:07.750+01:002012-04-14T02:37:07.750+01:00Like as stated above, it's a technique to crea...Like as stated above, it's a technique to create a beaded 3D look. I tried to replicate the "caviar" look using sundae sprinkles. I wonder if I will get hit with a c/d? You can't trademark a technique, it would be like trademarking the half-moon mani or french tip. You trademark the product not the technique; otherwise, track down the first manicurist/artist that developed this Ms. Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832234854565725482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-40278400959936668842012-04-12T20:51:36.946+01:002012-04-12T20:51:36.946+01:00Ugh. I hate it when polish companies pull this cr...Ugh. I hate it when polish companies pull this crap. I was all set to order a few Ciates from Sephora when I had the extra cash, but now I will rethink. Ciate is the new Ginger+Liz. :/Megan (A Polish Problem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13073351482757037676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-75543874510511797372012-04-12T14:10:25.486+01:002012-04-12T14:10:25.486+01:00such a stupidity... bad move for ciate :-psuch a stupidity... bad move for ciate :-pnail crazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04691106219017640677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-23851484270549703582012-04-12T12:03:04.549+01:002012-04-12T12:03:04.549+01:00I emailed for some free legal advice and they said...I emailed for some free legal advice and they said:<br /><br />"I note the various rights in Ciate and Caviar owned by Brand Agency (London) and others. These prior rights represent a bar to your using or seeking to register the same names or close variants for the same goods or services. To do so will infringe the other party's registered rights (once granted). <br /><br />With regardAnnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10784786922062147725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-35701171424442716292012-04-12T10:29:23.203+01:002012-04-12T10:29:23.203+01:00I'm loving the suggested "Kaviar nails&qu...I'm loving the suggested "Kaviar nails" term and the idea of getting all the bloggers to post a manicure in protest on the same day! I would definitely join in! :)Anutkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14656243897505897699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-52229889109477915282012-04-12T05:48:06.701+01:002012-04-12T05:48:06.701+01:00That is sad...but law is whoever TM's it first...That is sad...but law is whoever TM's it first has the rights - not who used it first. If they are in the process of TMing then the date they filed is what the TM is retro-active back to once they get the TM. Also to hold the TM in the process - just like in a patten, you take the info (photos, whatever) and mail it to yourself - then don't open it when it arrives. So the info inside is beachgalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06465511737750316429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-75170162870887033682012-04-11T21:36:55.389+01:002012-04-11T21:36:55.389+01:00If they haven't even trademarked it yet then t...If they haven't even trademarked it yet then they don't have a leg to stand on! And how can they have the audacity to try and stop creativity! Just because they are a big buisness and make a lot of money, it's so unfair! You don't see shatter nail polish being trademarked do you!?<br />http://prettydigits.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/caviar-nails-again.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607451967260415067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-85041947418690815832012-04-11T20:33:51.575+01:002012-04-11T20:33:51.575+01:00This is ridiculous/annoying...best go and change m...This is ridiculous/annoying...best go and change my latest post then. Sigh.Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13419435876945052290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-11475319319795765572012-04-11T19:20:03.809+01:002012-04-11T19:20:03.809+01:00This is appauling! And it makes me lose so much re...This is appauling! And it makes me lose so much respect for the company for the sheer cheek they have in trademarking an idea which isn't expliciltly their own.KatieYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12793534452122695421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-42962855114974063032012-04-11T18:00:54.436+01:002012-04-11T18:00:54.436+01:00What can I say, I agree with you. If a brand now d...What can I say, I agree with you. If a brand now decides to trademark "Striped manicure" we would all be in troubles, no? And I agree with some people, no more Ciaté for me (gladly I don't have any but I had always liked their nail polish bottles). If I can I will let them know that! Oh, and thank you for warning us about that!Akuma Kanjihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03903255377606490875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-59110936738687784072012-04-11T14:01:11.092+01:002012-04-11T14:01:11.092+01:00I think we should start calling them Fish Egg Mani...I think we should start calling them Fish Egg Manis :)Lucie and the Bumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312411593708521306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-34214586658847936762012-04-11T10:15:57.803+01:002012-04-11T10:15:57.803+01:00Love it!Love it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-23632152450433276252012-04-11T09:41:07.044+01:002012-04-11T09:41:07.044+01:00Ah, that's that, no more Ciaté for me. I don&#...Ah, that's that, no more Ciaté for me. I don't like stinginess! Specially not when it's combined with thievery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-74485312460660270492012-04-11T08:52:08.230+01:002012-04-11T08:52:08.230+01:00Ridiculous. They can't OWN something that does...Ridiculous. They can't OWN something that doesn't belong to them. That's like saying a company wants to own the polka dot nail design, or something...<br />I agree with Jackie, they've messed up royally!Allybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09437044776067175100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-27846375739277489222012-04-11T08:28:56.803+01:002012-04-11T08:28:56.803+01:00This is ridiculous. And weird.This is ridiculous. And weird.Simonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165269162764345344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-12480893363017389632012-04-11T05:33:14.931+01:002012-04-11T05:33:14.931+01:00Would they prefer for all posts on 'caviar'...Would they prefer for all posts on 'caviar' nails to be called 'the mani style that Ciate copied from Dashing Diva'. There is no need for us to mention caviar nails if they prefer it that way... :PJmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06968334756267933304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28917085372910165.post-72368338480517798102012-04-11T03:38:55.296+01:002012-04-11T03:38:55.296+01:00BAD . I need some kinda beads fast :)BAD . I need some kinda beads fast :)Naktsmeitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15839750983234410265noreply@blogger.com